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CapriciousCapricorn | I feel like I am but if I tell you that: 1) My Pluto is in Scorpio in 1st house but at end of it, conjunct 2nd house cusp --so it's probably more like a 2nd house Pluto 2) Pluto sextiles my Sun Neptune conjunction and trines my Moon Mars conjunction 3) I have nothing in the Scorpio (meaning personal planets), only Saturn and Pluto 4) I have nothing in my 8th house, apart from North Node and Chiron Considering this info, would you say I am Plutonian? Thanks P.S. Also, to those of you who just like me have soft Pluto aspects in their chart, are You in your opinion Plutonian? |
SleepyDiary | Why do you feel like a Plutonian? If you have some strong water influence from the other two water signs it might come from that too, and might be why you relate to Plutonians so much since all the water signs share some similarity. Like for example me, i can relate to Plutonians when it comes to having deep intense feelings, secrecy, moodiness, perceptiveness, disliking superficial connections and i can get obsessed with almost anything that have caught my interest and i have a weak pluto/Scorpio influence in my chart. But my moon lies in a water sign and several of my planets receives aspects from the other two water planets pluss i also have one personal planet in the 12th. |
polkadotstars | I don't think you'd be Plutonian in this case. I'd say you're Plutonian if Pluto is dominiant in your chart. You can see what your dominant planets are by going to astro.com and in the chart selection page, select the Pullen/Astrolog tab. Then select the last option from the Chart Type drop down menu, "Simple chart deliniation". Your percentiles of your planets will appear in a table format about half way down the page. My chart has Scorpio as the highest percentage, I am 25.7% Scorpio. The next is Pisces at 20.1%.
I have sun/moon/mercury conjunction in my 8th house trining Pluto. My Pluto also squares my Ascendant. |
EmGem | Try this Hun https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/skywriter.wordpress.com/2010/01/16/how-strong-is-your-pluto-heres-the-score/amp/ |
CapriciousCapricorn | quote: Originally posted by polkadotstars: I don't think you'd be Plutonian in this case. I'd say you're Plutonian if Pluto is dominiant in your chart. You can see what your dominant planets are by going to astro.com and in the chart selection page, select the Pullen/Astrolog tab. My chart has Scorpio as the highest percentage, I am 25.7% Scorpio. The next is Pisces at 20.1%. I have sun/moon/mercury conjunction in my 8th house trining Pluto. My Pluto also squares my Ascendant.
Pluto is my top ranked planet, 15.3% (1st by position and 3rd by aspects). Sun, Moon and Mercury are next with 10.9% each. Scorpio sign as well - 1st ranked, 18.1%. In comparison 2nd is my Sun sign Capricorn - 13.7%. But I still don't understand why 1st house Pluto and 4 soft aspects is enough to make me Plutonian? |
CapriciousCapricorn | quote: Originally posted by EmGem: Try this Hun https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/skywriter.wordpress.com/2010/01/16/how-strong-is-your-pluto-heres-the-score/amp/
Oh, thanks! I forgot about the existence of this test. 'Score: 0-10 would be considered low, while 15-30 indicates a moderately strong influence. 30-60, strong, Scores as high as 70, Very strong indeed—you’re definitely a Plutonian!' I have 34 - strong influence so I guess Pluto trines and sextiles are as influential as hard aspects. Of course I'm a nice kind of Plutonian then )) all the positive Pluto/Scorpio stuff you read about. Strength! |
Pisces Plutonian | I feel like I'm Plutonian because my Pluto is opposite Midheaven, square sun, opposite moon, sextile mercury, trine Venus, and conjunct Mars. |
CapriciousCapricorn | quote: Originally posted by Pisces Plutonian: I feel like I'm Plutonian because my Pluto is opposite Midheaven, square sun, opposite moon, sextile mercury, trine Venus, and conjunct Mars.
Oh, definitely Plutonian |
Randall | Absolutely! |
MahaKali | quote: Originally posted by polkadotstars: I don't think you'd be Plutonian in this case. I'd say you're Plutonian if Pluto is dominiant in your chart.
Well Pluto is already dominant as it's in 1st house of Scorpio. Ruler is in its home, house of yourself, what you are.. Plus other aspects. |
CapriciousCapricorn | Well, I hope this is useful to someone who comes across this thread with similar chart aspects. The fact is 1) I do feel Plutonian and 2) I don't have Pluto squares, conjunctions or oppositions, only trines and sextiles. But that's enough. Now I also wonder if someone with soft aspects BUT with Pluto in some other house (not angular would be best) also feels Plutonian. This is to figure out what exactly adds Pluto influence, aspects versus house, because obviously if both (in my case 1st house Pluto, trines and sextiles) are present then there's going to be strong Pluto influence on a person. |
lalalinda | In the wheel, house cusps move to the left and planets to the right (except Rx) so your 1st house Pluto that is conjunct the 2nd house cusp has actually just entered the 1st house. Did you get that? |
CapriciousCapricorn | quote: Originally posted by lalalinda: In the wheel, house cusps move to the left and planets to the right (except Rx) so your 1st house Pluto that is conjunct the 2nd house cusp has actually just entered the 1st house. Did you get that?
Lol ook I see I thought at first you were talking about progressions or something like that )) Speaking of progressions, Pluto is conjunct Asc in my progressed chart at this time and Asc is in Scorpio. Can't get any more Plutonian than that! Oh, and progressed Asc will soon conjunct natal Pluto..don't know what's going on. |
Lerena | My boyfriend has Sun and Mercury in 8th house, and in his progressed chart, he has Mars and Jupiter there too. His natal chart has a trine, two sextiles, a square, and a minor aspect with Pluto. Progressed Pluto is also conjunct my boyfriend's Progressed Midheaven. The Pullen chart analysis thing on astro says he's Plutonian. Honestly, this doesn't surprise me (I agree that he's Plutonian), but it's still nice to see a thread counting trines and sextiles, because these matter too. |
SleepyDiary | Can one pluto aspect esp a square to a personal planet make someone somewhat Plutonian? |
lalalinda | Anyone with Pluto/Scorpio in their Natal is going to exhibit Plutonian traits. Even in a mutable house with no aspects, that Pluto is still lethal but without aspects will just lay there like a dormant volcano. Until it's triggered...then watch out.Hello, SleepyDiary! welcome to LL ------------------ A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step...Lao Tzu |
CapriciousCapricorn | quote: Originally posted by SleepyDiary: Can one pluto aspect esp a square to a personal planet make someone somewhat Plutonian?
Hey, it's interesting, which planet? And how heavy is the influence of this planet in your chart? And what do You reckon? Your own opinion/gut feeling bears most weight in answering this question. |
SleepyDiary | quote: Originally posted by lalalinda: Anyone with Pluto/Scorpio in their Natal is going to exhibit Plutonian traits. Even in a mutable house with no aspects, that Pluto is still lethal but without aspects will just lay there like a dormant volcano. Until it's triggered...then watch out.Hello, SleepyDiary! welcome to LL
Ah, okey. Thanks for this info 👍🏾
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SleepyDiary | quote: Originally posted by CapriciousCapricorn: Hey, it's interesting, which planet? And how heavy is the influence of this planet in your chart? And what do You reckon? Your own opinion/gut feeling bears most weight in answering this question.
It aspects my Venus and venus is strong in my chart. I feel Plutonian when it comes to anything Venusian, if that makes sense.
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CapriciousCapricorn | quote: Originally posted by SleepyDiary: It aspects my Venus and venus is strong in my chart. I feel Plutonian when it comes to anything Venusian, if that makes sense.
Yes. It does. Can I ask what sign is Venus in? Because you said it's quite prominent in your chart, I wonder if Pluto making it Scorpionic-like messes it up a lot or not? I guess if it's in the water sign then not so much. Thanks |